I’m ripping off Mumford and Sons, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney … going to keep singing until it sounds like me.” Do you feel like you are at that point yet? You once said, “Every phase I’ve been through, I can go back and hear it. It was like, “Let’s write a song about being teenagers, being idiots, playing in basements never thinking it’s going to go anywhere and thinking about these people that shaped us.” And again, just being thankful, being observant. Both of us had been in bands with childhood friends, both of us have had really weird falling outs. My manager was like, “I just want you to make friends that you can commiserate with.” And that was exactly it. He reached out on TikTok or Instagram, and within a week of him finding and being moved by it, we were texting. You’re featured on the new X Ambassadors song “Friend for Life,” which you co-wrote with the band’s Sam Harris. We can make it hurt more and say something that feels deeper and truer, not just pain for pain’s sake - but pain for freedom, pain for growth, pain like the way that stretching hurts. I just have a lot of s–t I’m trying to work out, so I constantly want songs to reflect my own humanity. I get to go with more agency and more autonomy. Now, I’ll be sitting in co-writes and know this song needs a lick, or this melody needs to go to this place. I was a very snobbish, chip-on-my-shoulder punk kid who was like, “It should be art, it shouldn’t be commerce.” But I did go to school for four and a half years. How did that experience shape you as an artist today? You studied commercial songwriting in college. Now, fresh off a major label deal with Slowplay / Island Records, Medium Build reveals what’s still to come - and how he’s staying grounded as his career finally takes off.
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